Discussion On Pasig River Rehabilitation

I find it encouraging that some people are already discussing this issue about Pasig River’s rehabilitation. This shows that some Filipinos do care about what’s going on around them. I was beginning to doubt that after my niece showed me what Filipinos are searching for. Apparently, you can find out about these things through Google Insights.

The world is dying and this is what you’re interested in?

I guess most Filipinos just can’t get enough of such crap. Dengue and Sona2010 are good topics though.

Going back to what I was saying. I was looking for reports on Pasig River and I saw a report over at the online version of Philippine Star. Actually, it was more like a press release. Anyway, what got my attention more was the comments section. I copy-pasted the thread here for your enjoyment.

OK, it’s more for my own enjoyment.

yonP posted on Aug 16, 2010 08:13 AM

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pilengr_tw wrote:
yonP:
Meron ganyang relocatio site sa may sa daang papunta sa cavite sa harap ng uniwide pero ang tagal na naktiwangwang..ewan ko kung bakit.. bakit di nalang patayo ng mga ganun building dito sa manila..para maging relocation site..kase kapag irerelocate mo yan sa probinsya syempre papalag ang mga yan..
pilengr_tw:
Alam mo, sa hirap paalisin ang mga squatter sa Q.C., payag na ang legitimate owners na ipagbili ang mga lupa nila. Ang hirap, wala sa isip nang Q.C. Local government. Di, solve na ang housing problem nang mga mahihirap.
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yonP posted on Aug 16, 2010 08:11 AM

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codejack wrote:
yonP:
Makisabad na po, bagsak na rin ang turismo sa Thailand kasi mas masahol pa ang politika nila sa Pilipinas. May mga crab mentality rin.
codejack:
Ang sinasabi kong event, ay more than 15 years ago. They built the high rise condo before all these fracas.
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atong76 posted on Aug 15, 2010 09:57 PM

during my ROTC days 1972 to 1976.we cleaned most esteros in manila.we helped in relocating squatters to cavite.tinulungan po namin anf AFP.that time po lahat ng factories na nakatayo sa gilid ng pasig ay pinagbawalang magtapon ng tubig sa pasig river, marcos time po ito.nangyari po yan.nalinis ang mga estero at napatupad yong di pagtapon ng polluted na tubig sa pasig or kung di sila susunod isasara ang factory nila.matagal na po yang nililinis nung panahon na yon.pero di itinuloy ng mga sumunod na pres.
di po nakukuha lang yan sa publicity, NASA GAWA PO YAN.naalis na lahat ng iskuwater dyan noon.NGAYON? nandyan na naman dahil sa DI NA PA FOLLOW UP NG SUNOD NA ADMINISTRASYON
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Bruised Leaf posted on Aug 15, 2010 09:30 PM

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Bruised Leaf wrote:
Personally, I think it’s too easy to say “We’re confident we’ll be able to do this, and we’ll be able to do that, etcetera etcetera.” What we need is REAL FOLLOW-THROUGH. No more of pandering, no more pa-PR, no more photo-ops like that shot of Lito Atienza on the PRRC website. If these people wanna claim they’re working on it, then bring the Filipino people some RESULTS FOR A CHANGE.
And if results were the order of the day then the leadership behind the restoration of the esteros AND Ilog Pasig should include the following broad tasks that could be reported back to the people in a YES or NO format on a SET DEADLINE:
(1) Have you traced where the pollutants of the esteros and Ilog Pasig come from?
(2) Have you reviewed where the law is weak when it comes to deterring waste dumping from factories along and nearby these bodies of water? Have you come up with amendments to give these laws real fangs?
(3) Have you determined the CAUSES that keep the esteros polluted besides the regular flow of waste water coming from more elevated locations? Have you formulated corresponding deterrents to these causes of pollution as well? Are these deterrents all-encompassing or typically full of exemptions?
(4) Have you come up with a sustainable maintenance plan covering preventive and remedial courses of action for events of light, moderate, and heavy pollution load on said bodies of water?
Those who assume leadership in this cleanup should not have any problem if held to account, and will answer these questions straight with either yes or no.
CONTINUATION: We want results, not just hope. We’ve been stuffed with hope far too long. They should show us something new by following through already, by gathering some economics experts together for example, to study how the Aquino Administration would turn our country from a sachet economy to a prosperous one within his six years.
If President Aquino was serious about bringing about change, freeing Pinoys from being limited to buying tingi should be a good start. When more people can afford bigger, better things, it’s an indication that there’s work being done. And people less preoccupied with daily survival can care more about the environment.
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Bruised Leaf posted on Aug 15, 2010 09:29 PM

Personally, I think it’s too easy to say “We’re confident we’ll be able to do this, and we’ll be able to do that, etcetera etcetera.” What we need is REAL FOLLOW-THROUGH. No more of pandering, no more pa-PR, no more photo-ops like that shot of Lito Atienza on the PRRC website. If these people wanna claim they’re working on it, then bring the Filipino people some RESULTS FOR A CHANGE.
And if results were the order of the day then the leadership behind the restoration of the esteros AND Ilog Pasig should include the following broad tasks that could be reported back to the people in a YES or NO format on a SET DEADLINE:
(1) Have you traced where the pollutants of the esteros and Ilog Pasig come from?
(2) Have you reviewed where the law is weak when it comes to deterring waste dumping from factories along and nearby these bodies of water? Have you come up with amendments to give these laws real fangs?
(3) Have you determined the CAUSES that keep the esteros polluted besides the regular flow of waste water coming from more elevated locations? Have you formulated corresponding deterrents to these causes of pollution as well? Are these deterrents all-encompassing or typically full of exemptions?
(4) Have you come up with a sustainable maintenance plan covering preventive and remedial courses of action for events of light, moderate, and heavy pollution load on said bodies of water?
Those who assume leadership in this cleanup should not have any problem if held to account, and will answer these questions straight with either yes or no.
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codejack posted on Aug 15, 2010 07:24 PM

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yonP wrote:
Relocate the squatter, saan dadalhin? That is the question. About two decades ago, that is the problem of the government in Thailand. The road from their International Airport, down to the Center of the City was planned for expansion. Unlike here, they had a very intensive study before implementing the road widening. The highway before the expansion can only accommodate two lanes each direction and informal settlers abound on both sides. What they did was to built a 10 story tenement, and house this squatters there. The design provided the squatters with a large spacious play ground of about half a hectare for each tenement and it worked. The squatters were not relocated far from their workplace. And there were peace.
Not satisfied with the road widening, Thailand government embarked on an ambitious project of constructing 6 lane highways on one side on areas that has not yet been touch by business. It means that these area where the superhighways passes through are bare agricultural land. They were already subdivided in the hope that the future expansion of the metropolis create less problem if the infrastructure is already laid down. Electricity and water piping are all berried underground.
Fortunate for Thailand, being the gateway to Asia from Europe and Middle East, it was able to corner the bulk of tourist from those regions. It is earning by now, about 10 billion dollar industry on tourism alone. Thailand is also known as the place for semiprecious stones like jade, emeralds and others. Their jewelry industry is comparable to European standard. he heh naliligaw nanaman ako.
yonP:
Makisabad na po, bagsak na rin ang turismo sa Thailand kasi mas masahol pa ang politika nila sa Pilipinas. May mga crab mentality rin.
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codejack posted on Aug 15, 2010 07:16 PM

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dingalan_treasures wrote:
Bakit amoy ebak ang mga estero? Bakit kiti-kiti ang lumalangoy doon at walang isda? Bakit kulay itim ang tubig?
Bakit maraming nakalutang na basura sa estero? Bakit puro water lily ang tumutubo dito? Bakit mabagal ang daloy ng tubig?
Bakit….? DENR, baka may sagot kayo…Tenk yu…!
dingalan_treasures:
Ito’y suggestion ko lang bilang mamamayan:Maglagay ng public toilet bawat sulok in a distance of at least 100 meters each other (depende sa lugar kung maraming tao lagi). Dapat ito’y malinis, naka tiles at meron naka bantay sa pasukan na magkokolekta ng 2 pesos kung sino man ang papasok para gumamit. Ito’y para mapanatili ang kalinisan at pangbayad sa maglilinis. Dapat gastusan ito ng gobyerno natin para malinis ang kapaligiran. Dito sa kung saang bansa man ako, iyan ang marami dito kaya ang linis at hindi mabaho. Syempre gagastos ang gobyerno pero may balik kasi nagbabayad ng minimal lang ang gagamit. Isipin ninyo kung nasa isang lugar ka at inabot nang call of nature at hindi mo alam kung saan magparaos.
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codejack posted on Aug 15, 2010 07:00 PM

Itong Pasig river matagal na dapat itong inayos. Napakalaking biyaya sa mga mamamayan pag ito pinagtuonan ng pansin ng gobyerno. Dapat linisin ito at maglagay ng maraming ferry boat plying the artery of the river complete with mini piers (ala Venice baga). Sana po gawin na agad para ma decongest na rin ang traffic sa kalsada.
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kagawad posted on Aug 15, 2010 05:11 PM

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Hardy wrote:
9 years ba si Gloria naka-upo sa pwesto at tumira ng Malacanang, tapos wala siyang nagawa dito. Gusyo niya ang amoy nito.
Hardy:
Dito nga natin makikita ang galing ni PNoy!
Dapat mas magaling sya kay GMA! Di BA?
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kagawad posted on Aug 15, 2010 05:09 PM

POLITICAL WILL
Kaya ba ni PNoy paalisin ang mga informal setllers sa tabi ng mga estero? talk is cheap!
At least si BF napatunayan na nya ito sa Marikina. KAYA BA NI PNOY, O BAKA NAMAN PURO SALITA LANG SYA!!!
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jishkeh posted on Aug 15, 2010 01:08 PM

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alexanderg wrote:
kung within 100 days ni Pres Noynoy malinis na ang pasig river at mga estero… Its a significant accomplishment. at sana lagi ng malinis hindi yung ningas kugon lamang. I will add P100 tax for that cause if necessary.
alexanderg:
you’re kidding, right? 10 years is not even enough to totally rehab the entire length of pasig river and this needs a lot of political will (the likes of BF & gordon) in order to prosper not just the usual blah-blahs of most politicians. dapat magsimula ito sa mga estero at mga kanal, pabrika, mga iskwater, etc… na nagtatapon ng maduming tubig sa pasig kada oras! my suggestion, maglagay ng screen na sasala ng mga basura sa mga kanal at estero sa bawat barangay boundaries na sumasakop sa mga waterways na ito. obligahin ang mga barangay na nakakasakop sa mga ito na linisin ang mga screen ARAW-ARAW. magtalaga ng inspektor (yung hindi corrupt) ang syudad na nakakasakop sa mga barangay na syang mag iikot upang matiyak na naipapatupad ang paglilinis sa mga waterways. kailangan din ng mahigpit na monitoring sa mga sewage treatments ng mga pabrika na nagtatapon ng tubig sa ilog pasig if not totally remove them from the river banks kasama ng mga iskwaters. 100 days is definitely not enough to do this….
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dingalan_treasures posted on Aug 15, 2010 01:00 PM

Bakit amoy ebak ang mga estero? Bakit kiti-kiti ang lumalangoy doon at walang isda? Bakit kulay itim ang tubig?
Bakit maraming nakalutang na basura sa estero? Bakit puro water lily ang tumutubo dito? Bakit mabagal ang daloy ng tubig?
Bakit….? DENR, baka may sagot kayo…Tenk yu…!
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pilengr_tw posted on Aug 15, 2010 12:21 PM

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yonP wrote:
Relocate the squatter, saan dadalhin? That is the question. About two decades ago, that is the problem of the government in Thailand. The road from their International Airport, down to the Center of the City was planned for expansion. Unlike here, they had a very intensive study before implementing the road widening. The highway before the expansion can only accommodate two lanes each direction and informal settlers abound on both sides. What they did was to built a 10 story tenement, and house this squatters there. The design provided the squatters with a large spacious play ground of about half a hectare for each tenement and it worked. The squatters were not relocated far from their workplace. And there were peace.
Not satisfied with the road widening, Thailand government embarked on an ambitious project of constructing 6 lane highways on one side on areas that has not yet been touch by business. It means that these area where the superhighways passes through are bare agricultural land. They were already subdivided in the hope that the future expansion of the metropolis create less problem if the infrastructure is already laid down. Electricity and water piping are all berried underground.
Fortunate for Thailand, being the gateway to Asia from Europe and Middle East, it was able to corner the bulk of tourist from those regions. It is earning by now, about 10 billion dollar industry on tourism alone. Thailand is also known as the place for semiprecious stones like jade, emeralds and others. Their jewelry industry is comparable to European standard. he heh naliligaw nanaman ako.
yonP:
Meron ganyang relocatio site sa may sa daang papunta sa cavite sa harap ng uniwide pero ang tagal na naktiwangwang..ewan ko kung bakit.. bakit di nalang patayo ng mga ganun building dito sa manila..para maging relocation site..kase kapag irerelocate mo yan sa probinsya syempre papalag ang mga yan..
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regie_co posted on Aug 15, 2010 11:00 AM

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IMC123 wrote:
Bakit di pa alisin ng gobiyerno ang mga private structures na itinayo on both banks of the Pasig river? Di ba nila kaya ang mga malalaking tao na may-ari ng mga yan? I remember the plan of then first lady Imelda Marcos was to have roads runnning along the Pasig on both sides. Pero hindi yata natuloy sa ilang parte kasi ayaw umalis ng mga mayayaman na nag-squat sa riverbanks. Anong gagawin ni President Aquino sa mga ito? Takot din ba siya?
imc123:pano nkapagpatayo sila ron in the first place?
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IMC123 posted on Aug 15, 2010 10:37 AM

Bakit di pa alisin ng gobiyerno ang mga private structures na itinayo on both banks of the Pasig river? Di ba nila kaya ang mga malalaking tao na may-ari ng mga yan? I remember the plan of then first lady Imelda Marcos was to have roads runnning along the Pasig on both sides. Pero hindi yata natuloy sa ilang parte kasi ayaw umalis ng mga mayayaman na nag-squat sa riverbanks. Anong gagawin ni President Aquino sa mga ito? Takot din ba siya?
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emalex posted on Aug 15, 2010 10:12 AM

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oro821 wrote:
Matagal nang problema ang mga baradong esteros ng Maynila, ang mas malaking problema ay ang walang pakialam ng pamahalaang lokal ng lungsod ng Maynila. Si Lim ay nagbubulagbulagan sa mga problema ng mga Manileno.
oro821:
Tama ka, kunyari lang yan, bago pa kasi sa posisyon, puro ningas kugon , Di na ako naniniwala sa mga kaartihan ng ABS-CBN , at ibang politiko. Kilala nila ang mahihirap pag election , pagkatapos wala silang pakialam, wala ng pagbabago, They are not afraid of the coming judgment days from the most powerful above.
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oro821 posted on Aug 15, 2010 09:14 AM

Matagal nang problema ang mga baradong esteros ng Maynila, ang mas malaking problema ay ang walang pakialam ng pamahalaang lokal ng lungsod ng Maynila. Si Lim ay nagbubulagbulagan sa mga problema ng mga Manileno.
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renier patindol posted on Aug 15, 2010 08:57 AM

maganda ang mga idea nila pagkaharap ang media pero sana may mangyari na sa matagal na plano ng ganyan hindi lang sa mga esteros na malapit sa malakanyang kundi sa boung metro manila. kaso lang itong mga lugar na ganito inaalagaan ng mga politkong tao dahil dito sila kumukuha ng maraming boto lalo yong mga nasa pwesto na gagastosan pa nila ng husto gamit ang pera ng taong bayan para bumango ng husto ang career nila at dinadala pati mga kaanak na magiging politiko din tulad nila kawawa tayong mga mahirap nagpapahirap na pinahihirapan pa (MADALI NILANG MAKONTROL ANG MGA MAHIRAP) katwiran nila sila ang amo.
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JungleFighter posted on Aug 15, 2010 08:16 AM

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bedshot69_96 wrote:
JungleFighter:
di kailangan baguhin pa ang lugar na tirahan ng mga informal settlers (IS)… tutal public-private partnership din lang ang tema… bakit di magtayo ng konkretong multi- storey bldgs ( of course me sewer/water/incinerator ito) sa ibabaw ng mga estero at doon ilipat ang mga IS.. yong mga able-bodied jobless ang gawing laborers sa constructions…. subsidized muna ng gobyerno ang financing thru bonds na ibebenta with persuasion sa mga private capitalists at above market rate ang yield payable at a certain period of time…marketable din ito sa bond market exchange… bale yong daloy sa estero eh sa ilalim ng bldg dadaan… awarding of occupancy should be to certified resident IS only… di mo mapapaalis yong mga IS sa lugar na kanilang pinaghahanapbuhayan…relocation would be a prob if there were no jobs available… kailangan lang talaga ng Determination… Now, kung madalian ang gusto nila… SUNUGIN na lang lahat yong mga bahay sa estero… then, bakuran ng me koryenteng alambre.. sa mga resident IS doon… bahala na sila sa buhay nila… tutal wala naman re-eleksyonsa Presidential at matatagalan pa bago ang 2013 Local election… kung linis lang ang gagawin, tama ang sinabi ni JF… di pwede yong tahol lang ng tahol…kailangan sasabayan ng kagat sa mga IS para indahin nila ang gusto ng pamahalaan na gawing kaiga-igaya ang estero…na parang Estero de Venice…. na pwedeng mag-snorkel at scuba…(sa panaginip, di ba, Mayor Lim, sir?) …
bedshot69_96:
Maganda yan idea mo na magtayo ng multi-storey bldgs. pero ang problema, itong mga squatters ay gusto lahat libre, i-relocate mo sa resettlement area, aalis keso malayo at ibenta ang lugar nila. Nakita ko sa TV ang demolition ng squatters sa New Manila dahil may order na ang korte, parang giyera, sila pa ang matatapang matapos ang maraming taon na nag-squat sila sa private property. Nakakaawa nga pero kung puro awa na lang, walang mangyayari at siguro mas maganda, sunugin na lang pero balik din sila kaya walang katapusan puwera na lang na gamitan ng kamay na bakal.

yonP posted on Aug 15, 2010 08:07 AM

At the rate the government is reacting to squatter problem, my conservative estimate is that the squatter problem will be with us forever! Wala nang lunas yan. The government budget just could not support more expenses to help the squatters. Broke na ang gobyerno. By next year, I tell you, there will be less BIR collection on businesses and independent individuals. When I say independent, these are those that owns their own business.
Paano kasi, bagsak na ang negosyo, lalo namang tumataas ang perceived gross income kono! How can the BIR or the local government justify increasing the gross income on business base on a theoretical or hypothetical ground. Dapat, factual basis ang ginagawa nila.
In my case, talagang lalaban na ako. Sometime in 2002, my barbershop is only paying 2, 300 pesos Mayor’s permit. Ngayon, 12, 800 pesos. Kung kailan bumagsak ang negosyo ko, saka naman tumaas ang Mayor’s Permit ko dito sa Q.C. Ang masama, pati si ExMayor Belmonte, nang kinumfront ko siya, one on one, kung ano ang pinagbasehan niya at tumaas ang Mayor’s Permit? Ang sabi niya, “Magsara ka nalang kong hindi mo kayang magbayad.” Bastos! Kung hindi lang dahil marami siyang mga security, nakatanggap siya nang one pook! He hehe! Hindi ako natatakot ma bugbog, sanay naman ako. Talaga! Kung hindi lang sa mga anak kong mga bata pa, kahit na bala, hindi niya ako mahihinto.
Ang hirap nang kumita sa negosyo, tataasan pa nang Q.C. ang Mayor’s Permit. Tapos, gagamitin lang niya sa mga Tarpaulin na naglalakihan. Bumabaha na ang mga politikal tarpaulin dito sa Q.C. Kaya, pati si Senator Escudero at si P-noy galit na rin sa mga tarpaulin dahil taga Q.C. ang dalawa. Hayop ang taas nang Mayor’s permit!
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alexanderg posted on Aug 15, 2010 07:20 AM

kung within 100 days ni Pres Noynoy malinis na ang pasig river at mga estero… Its a significant accomplishment. at sana lagi ng malinis hindi yung ningas kugon lamang. I will add P100 tax for that cause if necessary.
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yonP posted on Aug 15, 2010 07:17 AM

Relocate the squatter, saan dadalhin? That is the question. About two decades ago, that is the problem of the government in Thailand. The road from their International Airport, down to the Center of the City was planned for expansion. Unlike here, they had a very intensive study before implementing the road widening. The highway before the expansion can only accommodate two lanes each direction and informal settlers abound on both sides. What they did was to built a 10 story tenement, and house this squatters there. The design provided the squatters with a large spacious play ground of about half a hectare for each tenement and it worked. The squatters were not relocated far from their workplace. And there were peace.
Not satisfied with the road widening, Thailand government embarked on an ambitious project of constructing 6 lane highways on one side on areas that has not yet been touch by business. It means that these area where the superhighways passes through are bare agricultural land. They were already subdivided in the hope that the future expansion of the metropolis create less problem if the infrastructure is already laid down. Electricity and water piping are all berried underground.
Fortunate for Thailand, being the gateway to Asia from Europe and Middle East, it was able to corner the bulk of tourist from those regions. It is earning by now, about 10 billion dollar industry on tourism alone. Thailand is also known as the place for semiprecious stones like jade, emeralds and others. Their jewelry industry is comparable to European standard. he heh naliligaw nanaman ako.
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robinson2 posted on Aug 15, 2010 07:12 AM

Just for the records. The cleaning and clearing of esteros begun several years ago. P-Noy is just reaping the credits of which he and his men did not have anything to do before. Credits should be fully given to intiatives of the private sectors and the MMDA under BF.The challenge to the present administration is how the clear the waterways of squatters. If it can b e done, this will really be a big accopmplishment.
Pasig once covered a major wateway and built structures over it. After so many years, it is found that such does not work because it cannot be declogged and cleaned. Now, the same waterway is being cleared and restored to its original but with much better embankments that will prevent erosions. Those encroaching the system and causing a lot problems by making it a waste dumping grounds were cleared and people along the banks are cooperating. The construction is still going on which is not in the inner part of the city. Rain water now freely flows to the Marikina River andi It is hoped that with the cooperation of Manila Water Co. a sewage treatment plant will be constructed at the mouth of the river so that water that will be thrown to the river will be at acceptable and environmentally safe.
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robinson2 posted on Aug 15, 2010 07:04 AM

Just for the records. The cleaning and clearing of esteros begun several years ago. P-Noy is just reaping the credits of which he and his men did not have anything to do before. Credits should be fully given to intiatives of the private sectors and the MMDA under BF.The challenge to the present administration is how the clear the waterways of squatters. If it can b e done, this will really be a big accopmplishment. Pasig once covered the
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robinson2 posted on Aug 15, 2010 07:03 AM

Just for the records. The cleaning and clearing of esteros begun several years ago. P-Noy is just reaping the credits of which he and his men did not have anything to do before. Credits should be fully given to intiatives of the private sectors and the MMDA under BF.The challenge to the present administration is how the clear the waterways of squatters. If it can b e done, this will really be a big accopmplishment.
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romehit posted on Aug 15, 2010 06:51 AM

No. 1: Relocate the squatters; 2. Require factories to have waste water disposal; 3. Give sanction to littering; etcetc.. Then we can hope to make clean esteros… clean Pasig River…
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bedshot69_96 posted on Aug 15, 2010 05:30 AM

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JungleFighter wrote:
Ang kailangang alisin ay ang mga squatters diyan sa tabi ng ilog at mga esteros dahil kahit anong gawing linis, marumi pa rin dahil saan nila itatapon ang kanilang mga basura? Masasayang lang ang pagod at pera kung mga squatters pa rin ang nakatira diyan at panahon na para kumilos ang gobyerno, hindi lang yon puro sabi ay lilinisin pero ganoon pa rin.
JungleFighter:
di kailangan baguhin pa ang lugar na tirahan ng mga informal settlers (IS)… tutal public-private partnership din lang ang tema… bakit di magtayo ng konkretong multi- storey bldgs ( of course me sewer/water/incinerator ito) sa ibabaw ng mga estero at doon ilipat ang mga IS.. yong mga able-bodied jobless ang gawing laborers sa constructions…. subsidized muna ng gobyerno ang financing thru bonds na ibebenta with persuasion sa mga private capitalists at above market rate ang yield payable at a certain period of time…marketable din ito sa bond market exchange… bale yong daloy sa estero eh sa ilalim ng bldg dadaan… awarding of occupancy should be to certified resident IS only… di mo mapapaalis yong mga IS sa lugar na kanilang pinaghahanapbuhayan…relocation would be a prob if there were no jobs available… kailangan lang talaga ng Determination… Now, kung madalian ang gusto nila… SUNUGIN na lang lahat yong mga bahay sa estero… then, bakuran ng me koryenteng alambre.. sa mga resident IS doon… bahala na sila sa buhay nila… tutal wala naman re-eleksyonsa Presidential at matatagalan pa bago ang 2013 Local election… kung linis lang ang gagawin, tama ang sinabi ni JF… di pwede yong tahol lang ng tahol…kailangan sasabayan ng kagat sa mga IS para indahin nila ang gusto ng pamahalaan na gawing kaiga-igaya ang estero…na parang Estero de Venice…. na pwedeng mag-snorkel at scuba…(sa panaginip, di ba, Mayor Lim, sir?) …
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JungleFighter posted on Aug 15, 2010 04:05 AM

Ang kailangang alisin ay ang mga squatters diyan sa tabi ng ilog at mga esteros dahil kahit anong gawing linis, marumi pa rin dahil saan nila itatapon ang kanilang mga basura? Masasayang lang ang pagod at pera kung mga squatters pa rin ang nakatira diyan at panahon na para kumilos ang gobyerno, hindi lang yon puro sabi ay lilinisin pero ganoon pa rin.
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jpr7777 posted on Aug 15, 2010 03:07 AM

quick gentlemen finish this work then move on to tullahan and navotas river which is 10 times worst than the case of pasig river – this body of water is causing a lot of health issues to surrounding barangays because of pollution…we need the denr to act on this asap…
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Hardy posted on Aug 15, 2010 02:37 AM

9 years ba si Gloria naka-upo sa pwesto at tumira ng Malacanang, tapos wala siyang nagawa dito. Gusyo niya ang amoy nito.
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philstarlsf posted on Aug 15, 2010 02:32 AM

dont play politics, its synonymous to dirty…..its about time govt gets its act together to work !…. lets put this in a picture ops(mathay style w/ pointing fingers), so we need the president himself, a big radio/tv network and 6 other dept secretaries in order to start or get the idea to start or get the determination to start….or start to act to start ..start lang ha! …cleaning some esteros esp those near the palace only….at least there is something to start….dont ever dream of removing the squatters and big business polluting on the esteros, esp those who have fully occupied the esteros….and dont ever dream that govt has a plan to prevent this from happening bec our system/life is just typical pinoy we just react after a big flood like ondoy….after this has passed, its politics again, not real work…..LOrd, pls give us hope, more hope, amen.Give our leaders wisdom and re-new their strength.

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